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Examining End Time Theories of the 1335 Day Prophecy

By: David M. Curtis

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Theory # 1

Marion Berry

 

"Using only a bible I could never arrive at Marion Berry's timelines for the 1335 day prophecy. It is IMPOSSIBLE to arrive at her conclusions using the BIBLE alone."

A brief intro: Marion Berry is a deep thinking profound researcher of Bible prophecy and Spirit of Prophecy writings, and she is a sweet sincere Christian lady. I know because I have met her. I have attended her seminar, and own all of her books. But her teachings about the 1335 day prophecy in her book, "Warning" are error. It is a complex interpretation TOTALLY RELYING on a pre-arranged sequence of events that she has compiled from the Spirit of Prophecy. I know of respectable doctors and pastors who have adopted her teachings.

However there is something you should be aware of. If I were a man living in a third world country and was fortunate enough to have a Bible, then chances are I would NOT have a computer with all of E G Whites writings on it. Using only a bible I could never arrive at Marion Berry's timelines for the 1335 day prophecy. It is IMPOSSIBLE to arrive at her conclusions using the BIBLE alone. That is reason enough to reject her conclusions. However we need to examine why her conclusions simply do not work.

Problems with this theory

1. If this chart were accurate we would know the day of Christ coming as soon as the National Sunday Law is enforced. However we will not know the Day and Hour of Jesus Coming UNTIL God's voice is heard giving us this information.

          "The voice of God is heard from Heaven, declaring the day and hour of Jesus' coming, and delivering the everlasting covenant to his people. Like peals of loudest thunder, his words roll through the earth. The Israel of God stand listening, with their eyes fixed upward."  Great Controversy p. 640.

        The Lord does not announce the day and the hour until probation is closed. The wicked are surprised at the second coming, the righteous are not surprised!

        1 Thessalonians  5:4   But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

2. This theory is confusing! The most complex Bible prophecy should be teachable to a child. This conclusion requires a week long seminar and hundreds of Spirit of Prophecy quotes to arrive at.

3. It is IMPOSSIBLE to teach this theory from the Bible alone!

4. Just like the historic view, Marion Berry here is teaching a different sequence of events than is found in the Bible. Sister Berry rearranges the order of the 1260 1290 and the 1335 from the order given in Bible.

The Bible gives this order.
1. 1260
(Dan 12 v. 7)
2. 1290
(Dan 12 v. 11)
3. 1335
(Dan 12 v. 12)

Marion Berry gives a different order than the Bible gives.
1. 1335
2. 1260
3. 1290

The BIBLE DOES NOT ALLOW this arrangement. See for your self.

Daniel 12:11-12

11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

According to Marion Berry the 1335 days end 15 DAYS BEFORE the 1290 days end. How can anyone WAIT for the 1335 days if they are already ended?

The Bottom Line: Marion Berry's seminar is beneficial for learning end time events, because her teachings on the last days are good, but her time lines are not biblical. Unfortunately, as much as she preaches that we need to use proper Hermeneutics, she is found not following them herself.

Note: The EVENTS she teaches are real events that really will happen. 100% of the S O P quotes she uses in her seminar and books are going to happen just the way the quotes read. The voice of God will speak, and the earth will quake etc. However her timelines are wrong. She identifies the 7 times God will speak at the end of time, and uses them to start and end the times in her charts. If I wanted to I could rearrange the 7 times God speaks with in these time lines in numerous ways. Regardless, my advice is to not throw the baby out with the bath water. The events she teaches are truth, but the timelines she teaches are not.

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Theory #2

Doug Batchelor

This is the chart put out by Amazing Facts

Although there are countless smaller ministries on the internet teaching various end time theories on the 1335 day prophecy there are three main ministries who are teaching a future version of the 1335 days.

1. Marion Berry

2. Doug Batchelor's (Amazing Facts)

3. Mine (The Loud Cry Ministry)

Doug Bachelor's version and mine are virtually identical, with only one exception. I do not believe the 1335 day prophecy sets a date for the close of probation and and according to Doug Batchelor's time chart put out by Amazing Facts, he does. Other than that we are pretty much in agreement. If you would like to hear Doug Bachelor's sermon on the 1335 day prophecy click the link below.

Allow me to go on record and say that Doug and I arrived at our conclusions completely independently of each other. We both began to teach a future application of this prophecy at about the same time. The first time Doug made his understanding public was during Net 99 out of New York city.

In Doug's chart he lists the close of probation happening on day 1290, whereas on my chart I list it as happening on an unknown day between day 1290 and day 1335.

On Doug's chart he lists the first resurrection as happening on day 1335.  That is the same as saying that the Second coming occurs on day 1335. For reason's already discussed under theory # 1 that simply won't work.

At this point I am going to make a statement that I hope everyone can appreciate. This prophecy is a "work in progress." NO ONE is an expert on it to the point where they can say beyond any doubt exactly what it means. That means we can ALL continue to study it and share our discoveries, and perhaps together we can all help each other by God's grace to arrive at the truth.

Theory # 3

A Theory from a Random Website

 

First I want to say bravo! This theory places the dates in the right order! 1260, 1290 and 1335. That is a good start. In both the historic view's chart and in Marion Berry's theory, the times of  the 1260, 1290 and 1335 are viewed as three separate timelines given in a mixed up order. However this theory  makes the prophecy of Daniel 12:7-12, one long time line with three major dates within it.

After all that is exactly what happens in the 70 week prophecy and the 2300 day prophecy. Notice that these prophecies all belong on the SAME timeline, and that the dates given in these prophecies point out specific events that were to happen along that ONE timeline.

 

 

Problems with this theory

1. Once again we have another theory which attempts to give a time for the second coming. Once the national Sunday law is enforced we would be able to count down the days to the second coming. That conflicts with other known facts that we discussed during the Marion Berry's theory.

2. The internet ministry  I got this image from is trying to put a date on the close of probation. According to the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy that is IMPOSSIBLE.

There is no Biblical grounds for placing the events where they are in this chart. It appears that the author of this theory had a knowledge of end times and stuck a few things where it seemed to make sense to him. This is not good hermeneutics. This is taking a "Blind Guess" at this prophecy, taking "A Stab in the Dark," hoping to get the order just right.

All of this is done with out the slightest biblical support. Does Daniel 12:11 say that there is a special resurrection at the end of the 1290 days? No! I am sorry it does not. This is a prime example of a private interpretation. Although there are other theories on the net, I think these examples will help you sift out the good ones from the bad. Basically make sure every event and where it is placed is supported 100% in the Bible. Theories that place events where they seem to make sense or that are solely based on the Spirit of Prophecy are not good enough. The Spirit of Prophecy is a good guide, and is at times helpful in pointing in the right direction, but the Bible is it's own expositor and explainer of it's own prophecies. There are NO exceptions to this rule, Period!

 

                               

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